The New York Times calls it “an impassioned defense.”
Looks more like a rambling, incoherent, and entirely unconvincing attempt to evade a question to me:
(via C&L)
Bush’s tone during this press conference has been well-limned by Ezra (who deems him “furious”), Digby (who calls him “angry and petulant”), and Barbara (who writes that he is “wound a little too tight”).
But what strikes me even more than Bush’s typical peevishness is his complete inability to grasp even the basic substance of David Gregory’s simple question, which boiled down to this: Do you agree to allow other countries to treat American soldiers in the way that you have treated, and propose to treat, enemy combatants?
It was a question that asked Bush to step outside himself, to view himself and his country from another perspective. And we all know that this is something that he is almost constitutionally incapable of doing. That rigidity has been, indeed, the only thing that has allowed him to maintain his belief in himself and in his self-appointed mission, despite the objections of much of the world. Like a horse wearing blinders at a racetrack, he can look neither to the side nor behind him, but only straight ahead, to the path directly in front of him. He has come to believe that that path is the only path; and why wouldn’t he, when he can see no other?
It seems to me that the only possible retort to Gregory’s question would have been an assertion of American exceptionalism, based on a claim of its inherent moral superiority: we should be allowed to treat others worse than we wish to be treated ourselves because our values are superior to those of other countries.
But that moral superiority was shredded when the Bush Administration did away with the Geneva conventions. We can no longer condemn other countries for torturing people because we now torture people. We can no longer condemn the unfair treatment of prisoners by brutal dictatorships because we have proved ourselves worthy of comparison to the worst despots.
And so Bush is left to stammer and steam and evade, and to practice, in spectacularly half-assed fashion, every known debate trick in the book as he tries to avoid the question before him.
But none of those tricks worked, and the fact is that if you look at what he actually said, rather than what The New York Times wants to interpret him as having said, it was, as Barbara noted, that “the world would be a better place if enemies who capture U.S. soldiers could torture them, try them on secret evidence, and execute them.” [that quote is Barbara’s, not GWB’s]
I’m sure that will bring great comfort to our soldiers serving overseas.
Update: More from Billmon (via Susie), who hits on the loss of moral superiority I was trying to get at above:
[. . .]
So now we’ll find out, I guess, what we’re really made of as a nation — down deep, in our core. Would the Geneva Conventions themselves start to unravel if the global superpower disavowed its obligations under them? Balkin seems to think this is possible. At best, the United States would add another big asterisk to its place on the list of civilized nations, and forfeit forever its ability to chastise the human rights abuses of others without triggering a global laughing fit.
[. . .]
What will be on the table then is the question of whether a nation as powerful and potentially dangerous to others as America (the proverbial bull in the china shop) can survive on brute force alone — without moral legitimacy or political prestige, without true allies (save for the world’s other leper regimes) and without “a decent respect to the opinions of mankind.”




4 Comments on "Complete Incoherence"
Lizzy:
Bush just babbles…Matt. And the scarely thing is some people still listen to him.
and btw, John Hall won his primary with increased voter turnout and a large margin. It feels good to win after 6 years.
Now comes the hard part.
Eli:
I’m always amazed at how a Bush speech or press conference that looks like a total trainwreck to me is always hailed as a masterful performance in the media the next day.
Well, okay, I guess I’m not. But I used to be, before I realized what the media was all about.
Frank:
I get the creeps now from that guy. He’s angry, and like a petulant little boy he wants his way, even if it means that he’s telling the whole world that it’s okay to tear the legs off grasshoppers and the wings off butterflies.
I used to think that we lived in a country of laws. Now I’m not so sure…and I have transitioned to be worried about my own personal security in this quasi police state. I used to think, “Nothing can happen to innocent people. Truth prevails.” With Angry George and his crowd, I’m no so sure anymore.
Matt:
Exactly. When there is no guarantee of due process, there is no guarantee of anything.
Like protestors facing those new microwave guns that the Air Force secretary wants to test out on crowds, we’re cooked.
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