07.17.05

Live Blogging Meet the Press

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Mehlman/Podesta

Biggest Freudian Slip of the Year?

Ken Mehlman says that two stories have come out this week that implicate Karl Rove (he meant to say exonerate. Oops. As they say, the truth will out.)

Russert hammers Mehlman when Mehlman says that he has “tremendous confidence” in Prosecutor Fitzgerald. Asks him whether he will accept Fitzgerald’s verdict no matter what it is since he has so much confidence in him. Mehlman stonewalls, falling back on an “I can’t speculate” line.

I can’t remember where I read this, but someone recently made the good point that Mehlman is being forced to defend Rove/McClellan/Bush because no other Republicans want to touch this right now. (I’ll source this later)

Mehlman continues to attack Wilson. What a creep.

Even Little Russ seems angry about this story.

Podesta, after Mehlman says that Republicans would not jump on Democrats if the situation was reversed: “I think my Republican friends slept through the 1990s.”

Podesta: “Frankly, the President said he would fire leakers, not law-breakers.”

Woodward/Bernstein

Bernstein: Watergate not just about a break-in; it was about a mentality.

Woodward refers to the “underground railroad” of information in Washington. Interesting metaphor.

I assume that the point of having Woodward and Bernstein on the show was to speculate on the viability of Watergate/Plamegate comparisons, and to discuss the importance of anonymous sources. But the show lost much of its steam during this segment, as Woodward and Bernstein talked little about the issues facing the nation today.

(I’m going to circle back now and rewatch the Cooper segment)

Matt Cooper

Matt Cooper says that it was Rove who first told him that Plame was Wilson’s wife and worked at the CIA.

Cooper says that he testified at grand jury hearings in August 2004 about a conversation he had had with [VP Cheney Chief of Staff] Scooter Libby. Libby had given him a waiver.

From Cooper’s Time article (coming out tomorrow, but excerpted on MTP):

In that testimony, I recounted an on-the-record conversation with Libby that moved to background. On the record, he denied that Cheney knew about or played any role in the Wilson trip to Niger. On background, I asked Libby if he had heard anything about Wilson’s wife sending her husband to Niger. Libby replied, “Yeah, I’ve heard that too,” or words to that effect.

Cooper says he interpreted that as a confirmation.

Cooper’s 2003 Time piece on Plame mentions “some government officials” who “noted to Time in interviews, (as well as to syndicated columnist Robert Novak) that Wilson’s wife, Valerie Plame, is a CIA official who monitors the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.”

Russert asks Cooper whether “some government officials” are Rove and Libby. Cooper says that “those were among the sources for that.” Russert asks, “Are there more?” Cooper winces, shrugs his shoulders, and says “I don’t want to get into it, but it’s possible.” Cooper says that the grand jury knows what he knows.

In yesterday’s Washington Post, Rove’s attorney, Robert Luskin, claimed that Cooper did not receive a specific waiver of confidentiality from Rove:

Luskin has said that he merely reaffirmed the blanket waiver by Rove, who is the president’s deputy chief of staff, and that the assurance would have been available at any time. He said that Cooper’s description of last-minute theatrics “does not look so good” and that “it just looks to me like there was less a desire to protect a source.”

Cooper reiterates that he received a specific and personal waiver of confidentiality from Rove’s lawyer shortly before he made his statement.

Russert asks a good question: before testifying before the grand jury, did Cooper receive waivers from the additional sources referred to in the “some government officials” line above? Cooper sidesteps the question. His facial expression says “no,” but his mouth says “anything I discussed before the grand jury I have a waiver for.” But did he discuss those other sources? Earlier, Cooper had said that the grand jury knows what he knows, but this answer leads me to question that.

I’ll link the Crooks and Liars video here when it’s up. Update: video | transcript

Please let me know whether you see any errors above.

6 Comments on "Live Blogging Meet the Press"


Josh:

Thanks for the summary Matt. I normally watch MTP but was away this morning and I’d prefer not to sit through the whole thing just to see the salient points.


jillian:

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

July 17, 2005 — ROVEGATE — Appearing on Meet the Press this morning, former Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta gave some insights into Karl Rove’s job as Deputy Chief of Staff in the Bush White House. Podesta said that Rove coordinates the activities of two major national security bodies — the National Security Council (NSC) and the Homeland Security Council (HSC).

In that position, Rove is responsible for chairing meetings of the Principals and Deputies Committees, which bring together high-level representatives from various intelligence, law enforcement, and homeland security agencies for regular and ad hoc briefings. Rove has access to “all source intelligence,” meaning he has a Top Secret/Special Background Investigation (SBI) clearance with access to numerous compartments and special access programs (SAPs): Special Intelligence (SI), COMINT, Byeman, ECI, Endseal, Gamma, H, Talent Keyhole (TK), Pearl, and VRK (Very Restricted Knowledge).

This means that Rove can access signals intelligence (SIGINT) information, including trancripts of domestic FBI wiretaps, human intelligence reports, reports on “black bag” and other “sneak and peek” operations, and internal CIA, NSA, DIA, FBI, and Homeland Security documents.

In his national and homeland security role as Deputy White House Chief of Staff, there are definite indications that Rove has, in the past and even quite recently, authorized the misuse of U.S. intelligence, including potentially illegal phone and email wiretaps, to gather extremely personal and sensitive information in order to smear his political opponents.


Matt:

Thanks for adding that, Jillian.


The Heretik:

Official spin now: exonerate, vindicate, blah, blah . .. not implicate .. blah, blah. . . . outrageous. Oy.


Elisa:

If anyone would like to see Meet the Press, it’s shown again tonight on MSNBC– at 10 p.m. and 1 a.m. EDT.


Night Bird:

Matt - Thanks for the recap, I am truly appreciative. It appears while we were navigating the hills to Mendecino today - there has been a lot of spinning.


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